Singlarities of the Brazilian J1b cluster

Singularities of the Portuguese-Brazilian J1b modal and DYS frequencies in the entire SMGF database

393= 13 - 70,981%
390=22 - 11,352%
19=15 - 23,930%
Three common markers but in sequence - 13-22-15, they are very rare in the J1 haplogroup results. Only the J1b cluster in the FTDNA J Project J1’s clusters have that sequence.
385 a/b = 12/19 - 0,147% (rare markers, just like 12/20 - 0,167%)
388=16 - 1,677% (associated with the J haplogroup)
458=18.2 - 0,375% or 17.2- 0,539% (.2 functions almost like a J1 SNP)
459=8/9 - 17,077%
GATA H4.1 = 9 - 0,252% (very rare)
YCAII=21/22 - 1,187% (rare)
461=10 - 1,187% (rare)
635=21 - 21,159% (marker very present in mini-haplotypes from articles and in the YHRD base)

The modal:
Four Iranian haplotypes Shahroud, Astane, Abadeh and Tehran.
Two Brazilians and one Reunion Island of Portuguese origin and the new haplotype from Peru.

The longest distance from the modal is found in the two extremes, the Iranian from Shahroud with the genetic difference of 29/36 and the Iberian-Peruvian, with the same genetic distance of 29/36 from the proposed equidistant modal.

Shahroud, Semnan, Iran - Match of 29/36

Markers Generations Years
Most Likely TMRCA more than 50 generations - more than 1550 years.
25% Cumulative Probability: 43 generations - 1333 years.
50% Cumulative Probability more than 50 more than 1550.
75% Cumulative Probability more than 50 more than 1550.

León D. from Peru- Match of 29/36

Markers - Generations - Years
Most Likely TMRCA more than 50 generations - more than 1550 years.
25% Cumulative Probability: 44 generations - 1364 years.
50% Cumulative Probability more than 50 more than 1550.
75% Cumulative Probability more than 50 more than 1550.

It seems that the J1b cluster slipped from the Roman Empire and evicted the Islamic Caliphate just crossing, crusading and fighting for survival against both enemies in the two distant and different edges (Caspian Sea and Portugal) at the end of both civilizations. The next step to the cluster was the Portuguese Seaborne Empire sailing and reaching places far more distant than the Romans and Arabs had ever been.
That's the complete SMGF modal sequence of the Portuguese-Brazilian/Northern Iranian J1b cluster.

New Talysh-Gilaki J1 cluster

New Talesh or Talysh-Gilaki J1 cluster found in the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF):


















Modal:
393=12
390=22
19=15
385=13-18
388=15
458=18.2
YCA=19-22
461=10












Portuguese-Brazilian J1b and Northern Iranian modal:
393=13
390=22
19=15
385=12-19 or 12-20
388=16
458=18.2
YCA=21-22
461=10


The two Branches:

The Talysh-Gilaki cluster is a smaller and more homogeneous cluster in terms of STR, the estimated time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) is close to 1000 years. The J1b Portuguese-Brazilian cluster TMRCA is close to 1500 years and the united Portuguese-Brazilian+Northern Iranian branch TMRCA is more than 2500 years.

Historical sources can relate the Root to some Ancient Iranian peoples like the Cadusii, Dailamites(Deylamites), the Medes and the Alans of the South-Western Caspian areas.

J1a M62 is Crimean Tatar

J1a M62 was reported by Ornela Semino et al - Origin, Diffusion and Differentiation of Y chromosome Haplogroups E and J: Inferences on the Neolithization of Europe and later Migratory events in the Mediterranean Area. 2004. Am J Hum Genet 74(5) 1023-1034.

Table 2, 184 samples from Central Asia- 9,2% were J1 M267 and only one 0.5% was M62.

Peter Underhill, a co-author, told me that the M62 was found in one of 22 Crimean Tatars samples collected by Spencer Wells and mentioned in Well et al 2001 PNAS publication. It would be DYS388=13.